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Typical Day
Hey everyone, I am interviewing at USA jet in a few weeks and am coming from a 121 Regional Airline background. My typical schedule lands me a grouping that is something like this:
4 days on - 2 days off - 4 days on - 3 days off - 5 days on - 2 days off - 4 days on - 4 days off - 2 days on
It is 11 days off in a 30 day bid period
I have a pairing of 3 days off and 4 days off that I am guaranteed off and the rest of the days off are randomly placed.
The reserve pilot flies anywhere between 20 and 60 hours a month and a line holder is built his line with between 76 and 87 hours
A normal day will include between 1 and 4 legs with and occasional day that has up to 6 or 7 legs in it, the days with fewer legs are usually really unproductive with long sits in airport terminals hanging out with the passengers long sits = 2-5 hours.
This month I fly the same trip 3 times that is valued at 7 hours over a 4 day trip lots of nights in hotels with very little flying.
I was wondering what your "typical schedule" is like. I am very interested in the differences between the full on demand 20 minute call out guys and the guys that fly the more scheduled line.
Thanks!
4 days on - 2 days off - 4 days on - 3 days off - 5 days on - 2 days off - 4 days on - 4 days off - 2 days on
It is 11 days off in a 30 day bid period
I have a pairing of 3 days off and 4 days off that I am guaranteed off and the rest of the days off are randomly placed.
The reserve pilot flies anywhere between 20 and 60 hours a month and a line holder is built his line with between 76 and 87 hours
A normal day will include between 1 and 4 legs with and occasional day that has up to 6 or 7 legs in it, the days with fewer legs are usually really unproductive with long sits in airport terminals hanging out with the passengers long sits = 2-5 hours.
This month I fly the same trip 3 times that is valued at 7 hours over a 4 day trip lots of nights in hotels with very little flying.
I was wondering what your "typical schedule" is like. I am very interested in the differences between the full on demand 20 minute call out guys and the guys that fly the more scheduled line.
Thanks!
PH- Guest
Re: Typical Day
Typical schedule is 10 days(12 on the -9) off out of 28 each bid period. That's about all you know for sure. There is no bidding over guarantee here. -9 is very different from the falcon as far as how much you fly. Flying depends on the person and your luck of the draw in the rotation. Sometimes you fly a ton and the next guy doesn't fly hardly at all... Roll the dice.
DA20Kaptain- Number of posts : 66
Registration date : 2007-12-17
Re: Typical Day
There is no Scheduled lines. You will not know your days off until the friday before the next bid starts (which is on a wed). Sometimes you don't even get the same days off on the line you bid for when it is awarded. Everyone is on a 25 minute call out when you are next up to fly, you could sit like that for 5 minutes, or 24 hours.
wannabe a Dr.- Number of posts : 32
Registration date : 2008-01-05
Re: Typical Day
Hi!
ALL of your days off are HARD days off. -9 guys also have to have a 1 in 7, so you may get more than 12 days off that 28 day period.
If you're a freight guy, you're on 25" callout if you're #1. If you're not, you're on a 1 hour callout on weekdays, and 2 hours weekends. You can ask for short time off (if you're not #1) and get up to 4 hours off off of the pager. If you're #1 for 12 hours, you can rotate to the bottom of the list of pilots (if you're the only one, you're out of luck). If you're #2 for 24 hours, you can also rotate down.
If you're a -9 PAX guy you will have a scheduled 6 day trip (6on/4off), or you will be on reserve with a 2 hour callout.
If you are also flying the Lear/King Air/PAX Falcon, you could be scheduled ahead of time for a trip, and pulled off the regular boards completely, or you could be put on the short board.
The short board is 2 days before you go off-you can only be sent on an out-and-back trip-no overnighting somewhere. Long board is the normal one.
You have tags for your next day off-can be red, yellow, green. Red means you HAVE to be home/off by 6 AM the 1st day off. Yellow means you have to be home you're first day, but you could fly into your day off. Green means you will work your days off (if they buy your days off, you get 4 hours of pay, and with the lowest pay about $50/hour, you would get $200 ABOVE your guarantee).
Typical day based in YIP:
Freight: Sit on call in DTW or in a hotel somewhere and you aren't called.
Freight: Get a 25" callout (or 4 hours notice) for a YIP-FNT-GYY-YIP.
Freight: Get a 25" callout (or 6 hours notice) for a YIP-MIA-YIP.
Freight: Get a 25" callout at 0230 hrs for a 14 overnight trip YIP-Mexico-Canada-YIP.
Freight: Get called LRD-LAX-LRD (sitting in a hotel in LRD).
Freight: Get called for YIP-SHV-LRD-MMTO-LRD, and stay in LRD for 7 days in the hotel B 4 your next trip.
Freight: On your last day one, you're in ELP. You are booked at 1600 to fly directly home (YIP or somewhere else if you're a commuter). You don't get a flight, so you go to the airport at 1600 and fly home, getting there a night early.
-9 PAX: Sit in a hotel and not fly.
-9 PAX: Sit in YIP on reserve and not fly for 6 days.
-9 PAX: Show your first day in YIP at 1900 (so you can commute in that morning) for a trip from YIP-SHV in the PAX Falcon to replace a crew.
-9 PAX: Show your first day in YIP at 0900 for an airline trip YIP-SAN to replace a crew.
-9 PAX: Fly one leg from SAN-AUS with a 1600 show time.
-9 PAX: Fly two legs, ending up in YIP at 1400 on your 6th day on. The next day is your last day on before 12 days off, and you need you're 1in7, so you commute home at 1400, get home a night early, have the next day off extra, so you get 13 days off in a row.
-9 PAX: Fly 4 legs, all short, during a 16 hour duty day.
Typical day based in ABQ:
You are on call and don't fly-this is what usually happens-I was there for 13 days on call and flew once.
As you can see, there is no typical day, typical week, or typical month. It is all variable and random.
The most flying time I've heard of is a Falcon Capt who flew 113 hours in a month, and sold back all 10 of his days off (he lived in YIP). That would put him about 100 hours over guarantee for pay purposes.
The least I've heard of flying is less than 10 hours (the guy was NOT on vacation-he rotated down every chance he got).
If U want more info, PM me with your email.
cliff
GRB
ALL of your days off are HARD days off. -9 guys also have to have a 1 in 7, so you may get more than 12 days off that 28 day period.
If you're a freight guy, you're on 25" callout if you're #1. If you're not, you're on a 1 hour callout on weekdays, and 2 hours weekends. You can ask for short time off (if you're not #1) and get up to 4 hours off off of the pager. If you're #1 for 12 hours, you can rotate to the bottom of the list of pilots (if you're the only one, you're out of luck). If you're #2 for 24 hours, you can also rotate down.
If you're a -9 PAX guy you will have a scheduled 6 day trip (6on/4off), or you will be on reserve with a 2 hour callout.
If you are also flying the Lear/King Air/PAX Falcon, you could be scheduled ahead of time for a trip, and pulled off the regular boards completely, or you could be put on the short board.
The short board is 2 days before you go off-you can only be sent on an out-and-back trip-no overnighting somewhere. Long board is the normal one.
You have tags for your next day off-can be red, yellow, green. Red means you HAVE to be home/off by 6 AM the 1st day off. Yellow means you have to be home you're first day, but you could fly into your day off. Green means you will work your days off (if they buy your days off, you get 4 hours of pay, and with the lowest pay about $50/hour, you would get $200 ABOVE your guarantee).
Typical day based in YIP:
Freight: Sit on call in DTW or in a hotel somewhere and you aren't called.
Freight: Get a 25" callout (or 4 hours notice) for a YIP-FNT-GYY-YIP.
Freight: Get a 25" callout (or 6 hours notice) for a YIP-MIA-YIP.
Freight: Get a 25" callout at 0230 hrs for a 14 overnight trip YIP-Mexico-Canada-YIP.
Freight: Get called LRD-LAX-LRD (sitting in a hotel in LRD).
Freight: Get called for YIP-SHV-LRD-MMTO-LRD, and stay in LRD for 7 days in the hotel B 4 your next trip.
Freight: On your last day one, you're in ELP. You are booked at 1600 to fly directly home (YIP or somewhere else if you're a commuter). You don't get a flight, so you go to the airport at 1600 and fly home, getting there a night early.
-9 PAX: Sit in a hotel and not fly.
-9 PAX: Sit in YIP on reserve and not fly for 6 days.
-9 PAX: Show your first day in YIP at 1900 (so you can commute in that morning) for a trip from YIP-SHV in the PAX Falcon to replace a crew.
-9 PAX: Show your first day in YIP at 0900 for an airline trip YIP-SAN to replace a crew.
-9 PAX: Fly one leg from SAN-AUS with a 1600 show time.
-9 PAX: Fly two legs, ending up in YIP at 1400 on your 6th day on. The next day is your last day on before 12 days off, and you need you're 1in7, so you commute home at 1400, get home a night early, have the next day off extra, so you get 13 days off in a row.
-9 PAX: Fly 4 legs, all short, during a 16 hour duty day.
Typical day based in ABQ:
You are on call and don't fly-this is what usually happens-I was there for 13 days on call and flew once.
As you can see, there is no typical day, typical week, or typical month. It is all variable and random.
The most flying time I've heard of is a Falcon Capt who flew 113 hours in a month, and sold back all 10 of his days off (he lived in YIP). That would put him about 100 hours over guarantee for pay purposes.
The least I've heard of flying is less than 10 hours (the guy was NOT on vacation-he rotated down every chance he got).
If U want more info, PM me with your email.
cliff
GRB
atpcliff- Number of posts : 146
Age : 62
Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
A typical day is when you wake up and check your company email. After trying several times, you can't login. You think "Huh, oh well I'll try later."
Then later you find out you got laid off.
Then later you find out you got laid off.
nasa00- Number of posts : 89
Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
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Registration date : 2007-12-15
nasa00- Number of posts : 89
Registration date : 2007-12-15
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Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
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deltalima21- Number of posts : 121
Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
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Crashpad is a 1997 Park home(trailer) 16' x 80' 2 bed. 2 bath. 9-11 minutes from ops. depending on traffic and route.
**Move-in now, and pay $175 per month for 3 months, I will cover extra expenses.
Crashpad is a 1997 Park home(trailer) 16' x 80' 2 bed. 2 bath. 9-11 minutes from ops. depending on traffic and route.
**Move-in now, and pay $175 per month for 3 months, I will cover extra expenses.
deltalima21- Number of posts : 121
Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
Payment sent youll get it before the 20th. Thats the earliest chase let me do it.
I totally forgot about it. I was gonna pay you.
I totally forgot about it. I was gonna pay you.
nasa00- Number of posts : 89
Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
Typical day of a USA Jet pilot.....
Rinse, and repeat.
- Wake up
- Take a piss, ****
- Log on to climbto350.com and search for jobs
- Click apply to multiple jobs that you don't even care if they call you to fly a 737 in Thailand.
- Log into bank account website, ensure unemployment check has been deposited.
- Turn on TV, watch Springer, Maury, and whatever brain melting show happens to be on.
- Go to Taco Bell, buy something off the dollar menu.
- Ask for extra napkins because you can't afford toilet paper.
- Notice you have less than a 1/4 tank of gas left as you drive back to your cave, but know you won't have to fill up for another month because you have no where to go.
- Call, IM, and text friends who are in the same position.
- Look at porn.
- Play Xbox 360, or PC first person shooter.
- Post random **** on pilot message boards.
- Look at porn.
- Think about making something for dinner.
- Look at porn.
- Go to sleep.
- Wake up at 3am because you heard the pager you haven't had in a year go off.
- Go back to sleep.
- Wake up again because you drank too much earlier, and have to piss.
Rinse, and repeat.
Typical Day
Speak for yourself, I don't engage in perverted, filthy activity you mention. That must be a "guy" thing. Besides, I cant even afford an X-box.
The other stuff's accurate.
The other stuff's accurate.
Sharky- Number of posts : 152
Registration date : 2008-01-25
Re: Typical Day
Hi.
Drive kids to school while still asleep
Get CEO her breakfast
Start laundry, and periodically break throughout the day for laundry so CEO doesn't yell when she gets home!
Log on to climbto350.com, then jsfirm and search for jobs
Click apply to multiple jobs that you don't even care if they call you to fly a MD-83 in Nigeria.
Search for more jobs via various job and contractor sites
Check all the websites, and then pprune.org to find jobs and contract agencies you never heard of before
Spend 5" wistfully thinking you should have gone to the Compass interview 18 months ago.
Try and remember to eat, as you're so busy trying to get a job, but if you forget, it's OK because you'll save money and lose weight (I'm down 5+ lbs.), which will help if you go to an Asian medical, where they test your BMI
Pick up boys from school and do stuff with them
Make dinner
Hang out with CEO before she passes out from exhaustion for the night
Stay up a little and watch Borat or some decent movie on ATTUverse
Rinse and Repeat
cliff
GRB
Drive kids to school while still asleep
Get CEO her breakfast
Start laundry, and periodically break throughout the day for laundry so CEO doesn't yell when she gets home!
Log on to climbto350.com, then jsfirm and search for jobs
Click apply to multiple jobs that you don't even care if they call you to fly a MD-83 in Nigeria.
Search for more jobs via various job and contractor sites
Check all the websites, and then pprune.org to find jobs and contract agencies you never heard of before
Spend 5" wistfully thinking you should have gone to the Compass interview 18 months ago.
Try and remember to eat, as you're so busy trying to get a job, but if you forget, it's OK because you'll save money and lose weight (I'm down 5+ lbs.), which will help if you go to an Asian medical, where they test your BMI
Pick up boys from school and do stuff with them
Make dinner
Hang out with CEO before she passes out from exhaustion for the night
Stay up a little and watch Borat or some decent movie on ATTUverse
Rinse and Repeat
cliff
GRB
atpcliff- Number of posts : 146
Age : 62
Registration date : 2007-12-15
Re: Typical Day
Joliet wrote:Typical day of a USA Jet pilot.....
- Wake up
- Take a piss, ****
- Log on to climbto350.com and search for jobs
- Click apply to multiple jobs that you don't even care if they call you to fly a 737 in Thailand.
- Log into bank account website, ensure unemployment check has been deposited.
- Turn on TV, watch Springer, Maury, and whatever brain melting show happens to be on.
- Go to Taco Bell, buy something off the dollar menu.
- Ask for extra napkins because you can't afford toilet paper.
- Notice you have less than a 1/4 tank of gas left as you drive back to your cave, but know you won't have to fill up for another month because you have no where to go.
- Call, IM, and text friends who are in the same position.
- Look at porn.
- Play Xbox 360, or PC first person shooter.
- Post random **** on pilot message boards.
- Look at porn.
- Think about making something for dinner.
- Look at porn.
- Go to sleep.
- Wake up at 3am because you heard the pager you haven't had in a year go off.
- Go back to sleep.
- Wake up again because you drank too much earlier, and have to piss.
Rinse, and repeat.
Thats AWSOME
nasa00- Number of posts : 89
Registration date : 2007-12-15
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